| ▲ | net01 14 hours ago |
| who would want to go to war with nato ? > china ? why ? they just want taiwan > russia ? lol, they can't even manage Ukraine ( with our aid ) > iran ? why ? they just want to kill you know who This is just a fearmongering article. |
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| ▲ | zeryx 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| More like America going to war with NATO at this point |
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| ▲ | Jtsummers 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | The US lacks the political will for a war with NATO, I'm speaking of the soldiers and citizens. The worst case for NATO is US withdrawal and explicit or tacit support of NATO enemies. Some soldiers would blindly follow orders to march on Europe, but we can't even win a war against Iran right now so I'm not sure how much Europe has to worry about a US invasion. Canada, maybe, but that's probably even more unpopular in the US than invading Europe. And it'd also be the end, economically, for the US. We'd be hosed, that isn't to say current leadership wouldn't try and end up fucking us all over, but the effect would be another loss for the US. | | |
| ▲ | zeryx 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | I'm happy you have that confidence, I think it would only take 1 generation of conditioning to get us to centralized autocratic rule. It won't be trump in power, it'll be Vance or someone else less popular but smarter. |
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| ▲ | azan_ 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > russia ? lol, they can't even manage Ukraine ( with our aid ) And that's why they want to attack Europe. They hope that it will either cause eu to stop supporting Ukraine or at least that it will give them good negotiation position (e.g. we'll stop attacking baltic countries but Ukraine has to let go of their territory). |
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| ▲ | net01 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | if they end up attacking Nato, I think we would just go until boots are in Moscow.
our tech is better and we have more men ( we dont need North Koreans to fight) | | |
| ▲ | torben-friis 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | If our boots get anywhere near Moscow we get nuked. That's the issue, a belligerent neighbor that permanently sabotages you but which you can't ever get too close to losing. |
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| ▲ | troupo 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Russia has been probing NATO for several years now. NATO is a paper tiger that seems to be content to do nothing. As long as the probing is in the lesser members: the Baltics, Romania. When (likely not if) Russia decides to attack the Baltics, NATO will just shrug and send a strongly worded memo. |
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| ▲ | elygre 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | Probes are not worth going to war for. Russian boots on Baltic grounds would be. | | |
| ▲ | troupo 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Some years back when a Russian jet breached Turkish airspace just for a few seconds, it was shot down. Now it's nothing but strongly worded thoughts and prayers |
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