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etc-hosts 5 hours ago

The girls school strike was followed up by a strike minutes later. Same spot. The girls school children was probably made up of the kids of IRGC members.

A strike on the girls school would attract IRGC members to it, who could be finished off with the second strike.

I think the attack was deliberate.

nostrademons 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There've already been numerous postmortems published about what happened with the school strike.

The school was located on a former military base. 10 years ago, that location was a legit military target. Nobody bothered to update the satellite imagery from 2013 when feeding it into whatever LLM was assisting in targeting. It saw an airstrip and missile base. The human reviewing the targeting saw an airstrip and missile base. When you go to take out a military target, you don't send one missile. You send a missile or two in first, and then another couple in a few minutes later.

Hanlon's Razor very much applies here. There's no need to posit that the children were IRGC members or that the attack was deliberate or even that the children were the targets. There's a very obvious explanation, which is that nobody bothered to check the date and assumed that if it was military base in 2013 it was still a military base today.

Planktonne 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> There's a very obvious explanation, which is that nobody bothered to check the date and assumed that if it was military base in 2013 it was still a military base today.

That's not a particularly obvious or even likely explanation. The US clearly has updated intelligence on Iran since 2013, or they wouldn't have been able to bomb any of the targets they did successfully hit.

The simplest explanation--Occam's razor being sharper than Hanlon's--is that the country that has repeatedly

- Threatened to target the families of 'enemies'

- Boasted of their accurate weaponry

Fired their accurate weaponry at a target consisting of the families of those they think of as enemies.

nostrademons 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You've never met a stupid employee who doesn't use all of the tools available in their organization?

Decisions are made by people, not by countries. People have limited capacity in their wetware and frequently take shortcuts in their work, particularly if they are just doing a job and face little personal consequences for lazyness.

Planktonne 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I've met all kinds of people, but the most likely explanation for people doing something they said they were going to do and had the capability to do is that they did it.

Twisting yourself in knots to pretend it's more likely that the US has paid no attention to Iran for 13 years than it is that they did the thing they said they would is not rational.

fwip 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not to mention how it seems to be standard practice to bomb weddings that one military commander happens to be attending.

The US has found out that it can commit war crimes as much as it wants, and nobody is going to stop it.

ux266478 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It would make sense, but minutes later? Did the IRGC brass break out the infamous FTL dirtbikes?

fwip 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Faster than light? Do you think they're living on Mars or something?

vel0city 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Many of the families of the children at the school potentially worked at the military base the school was at.

cyanydeez 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

you are way to forgivining in how stupid the military is under current leadership.

This sounds like the same type of Israel apologism. "OK, well we kill a bunch of innocents, but they were related to all those evil people"

lopsotronic 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Israeli "Lavender" AI-assisted targeting was used with/in "Where's Daddy"[1] mode, which had several frameworks for using family to strike identified targets. One method is to liquidate the residence with maximum family members on prem, which had a high chance of drawing the target to the location where a second strike would have a high chance of lethality.

One aspect of Lavender that proved frustrating: the system identified so many targets that exasperated ground controllers eventually just ordered the equivalent of full on carpet bombing. When the whole building's showing up as red on your computer screen, I suppose that makes sense. From a particular perspective.

[1] I'm . . uh . . not making that up. That what is/was called. Undoubtedly it has a more digestible name now.

derwiki 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I didn’t read it as apologism, just a theory that it may have been done intentionally

2OEH8eoCRo0 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

People don't like thinking that a lot of good people can die from a mistake.

unethical_ban 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't think "They deliberately murdered 100 children to lure opposition military officers in for a second strike" is apologism.