| ▲ | righthand 7 hours ago |
| So carry a separate device while traveling. Or wipe your phone, then restore after the border. This is just going to lead to a service that does this for you and the overreaching feds won’t be able to do anything about it. And as far as I can tell you still don’t have to give them your pin code. |
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| ▲ | autoexec 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| They don't need your pin, they can just hack the phone take all your data anyway. ICE has a contract with Cellebrite |
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| ▲ | puppycodes 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Not really. Cellebrite isn't magic. If you have an up to date OS and a strong password not pin, encryption functions as it should. The best thing to do is simply have a travel phone. | | |
| ▲ | matheusmoreira 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Right now it seems GrapheneOS is the only OS capable of resisting Cellebrite. | |
| ▲ | iAMkenough 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Imaged encrypted volumes can be decrypted later. We're building massive amounts of compute with government bonds these days. | |
| ▲ | autoexec 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's not magic, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work most of the time. From https://cellebrite.com/en/blog/the-access-gap-is-closed-what... : Here’s what that looks like in practice in 2026: iOS: Cellebrite supports access to the latest iPhone models and iOS versions, including both after-first-unlock (AFU) and before-first-unlock (BFU) states. Recent updates have introduced new AFU access methods for previously unsupported iOS device configurations, expanding the range of devices that can be accessed without requiring a prior unlock event. Android: The latest releases restored and expanded full file system (FFS) extraction across a broad range of newer Android models, which is an area where the competitive landscape had seen fluctuation. Coverage now spans Samsung, Google Pixel and other major Android manufacturers at their current OS versions. |
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| ▲ | prettyblocks 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| the worry is that this will be interpreted as tampering and cary consequences. |
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| ▲ | iamnothere 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | This would not be tampering, because you haven’t tampered with anything. The “evidence” is simply at home. | | |
| ▲ | SoftTalker 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | The law isn't a computer program. Intent matters. | | |
| ▲ | iamnothere 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Try proving intent when it’s a common practice. I’d even say it’s a best practice these days, especially for business. You’re fearmongering. Find me a case of someone getting prosecuted for having a burner phone. It doesn’t exist. |
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| ▲ | andix 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | If you're worried about that, you are not living in a free country anymore. |
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| ▲ | peezd 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| It's been somewhat established that having a wiped or basic phone is in itself sus and reason for them to investigate you further. |
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| ▲ | iamnothere 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | They can investigate all they want, they can even detain you briefly, but if you are a citizen and there’s no evidence of a crime then they have to let you in. | | |
| ▲ | matheusmoreira 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | And if you're not a citizen? | | | |
| ▲ | CamperBob2 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They have more guns than you do, and these days, most of the judges are blindly and shamelessly on their side. They don't "have" to do jack. | | |
| ▲ | iamnothere 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | You’re fearmongering. Despite what some may say, it’s not Nazi Germany. Rule of law still has sway. Find me caselaw where a “basic” phone was used as valid evidence. Or where the phone was already empty when someone began to approach the border. | | |
| ▲ | CamperBob2 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Rule of law still has sway. Get back to me once the Good and Pretti homicides in Minneapolis have been prosecuted. | |
| ▲ | tokai 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Rule of Law was very strong in Nazi Germany. Everything that regime did was legal in Germany at the time. | |
| ▲ | tombert 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I mean they'll shoot protesters execution-style and retroactively declare that person a terrorist before they've even done any investigations. It's not Nazi Germany, but this administration has certainly demonstrated that they're not above inventing reasons to justify their actions later. |
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| ▲ | otterley 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Do you have any references to this? | | | |
| ▲ | quickthrowman 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What are they going to do if you’re not carrying anything illegal and you’re a citizen? You cannot be refused entry to the US as a citizen and they can’t charge you or hold you without evidence. You don’t have to tell them why your phone is wiped, just stay silent until you’re released. | |
| ▲ | puppycodes 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Have not heard this, whats your source? I don't see how they could determine that because "its a new phone" is hard to dispute. best case scenario is that a higher court overturns this but not holding my breath. |
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