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n6242 3 hours ago

I've seen Slack and Claude doing this among others, it's turned into one of my leading red flags for untrustworthyness.

stetrain 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I get the idea. If email links are secure enough to use for password resets, just do that every time. Then you eliminate a whole category of password attacks.

But it’s definitely annoying for a frequently used service.

callc 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Maybe this gets us closer to some idea of email being a more protected digital service, that has some legal guarantees?

Putting the potential negatives under the rug for a second…

I would be nice to have email that (1) you can’t get locked out of arbitrarily, (2) acts similarly to US mailbox (in its protections and universal service), (3) acts as an identity

Is this a bad idea?

tancop an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Only if it's run by the state and free for every citizen. Forcing more bureaucracy on email providers will just make everything more centralized under Google and Microsoft.

It should be a mailbox with E2E encryption where the keys are stored on your ID card. Backups stay on secure servers that are legally protected from anyone including the police and only given out when you're getting a new ID at a government service center, encrypted with the cards public key so a hacker in the card issuing system can't steal it.

Every user gets a persistent address used as their identity, and any number of anonymous ones. Locking someone out would be both illegal and inconvenient for the government if all their official business is going through the mailbox.

nunez 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Horrible idea. This will require every email vendor to certify with every country they provide service to that wants to do something like this, which will pretty much kill any small/indie email hosting providers.

I'd much rather have stricter legislation around password resets built into existing reg frameworks like PCI or HIPAA. If you store a form of payment or PII with a provider, then some form of human verification should be needed to perform a password reset.