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vel0city 2 hours ago

Passkeys can exist on devices other than phones, so your entire premise is moot.

tavavex an hour ago | parent [-]

What? Did you read the thread? I never said passkeys can only exist on phones. The whole conversation is about "how do I log on with passkeys if something happens to my trusted device?". The parent comments talked about just using your phone, I'm saying there's lots of situations where someone might not have access to either a phone or an internet connection for it. And when this happens, you really don't want to be left without a way to access all vital digital services.

vel0city an hour ago | parent [-]

> I'm saying there's lots of situations where someone might not have access to either a phone or an internet connection for it. And when this happens, you really don't want to be left without a way to access all vital digital services.

And when that happens I'm usually glad my credential is a passkey on my keyring, as chances are if I don't have my phone and I haven't auth'd on to some computer I almost certainly don't have access to my password vault. But hey, my passkey works just fine without my phone. And I can trust that once I unplug my authenticator and log out of that session, there's no long lasting credentials left behind. I don't get that with passwords.

Aren't passkeys great?

pixl97 an hour ago | parent [-]

You go to country X (USA sounds good to put in here).

You get mugged.

They take your phone and keyring.

They can't do anything with it since it's locked, but you don't have it.

Aren't passkeys great?

jazzyjackson an hour ago | parent [-]

They can’t do anything with it

I have a backup key at home

Mission accomplished

mrweasel 4 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

But the problem is that you can't really backup passkeys and because people are frankly frequent tricked into using them, they have no good recovery options.

I know plenty of people who only have phone, no other devices. They don't backup that phone, they shouldn't but they don't. They don't use a password manager either, maybe they should, but they don't.

My issue with passkeys are that they are designed for a reality that don't exist, or at least only exists for people who are already doing a lot to secure their devices.

rcxdude 12 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you have a plan for getting home without access to any of your accounts? And one of the problems with passkeys is that it's unreasonably difficult to keep a backup key.

pixl97 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

You're asking way too much foresight in this thread I guess. There are some people who have lived lives without any series of unfortunate events, they can't even imagine what the world can serve up.