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Black Holes or Black Hole Stars? Astronomers Spar over 'Little Red Dots'(quantamagazine.org)
25 points by jandrewrogers a day ago | 7 comments
jahnu 39 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

One thing worth noting is our popular notion of what a star seems to be is quite different from what astronomers have.

One example, Canis Majoris has a radius of about 1420 solar radii. But its mass is roughly 17±8 times the mass of the Sun and therefore an average density of 5.33 to 8.38 mg/m3. “It is over 100.000 times less dense than Earth’s atmosphere at sea level.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VY_Canis_Majoris

https://nineplanets.org/vy-canis-majoris/

FranOntanaya a minute ago | parent | next [-]

I always wonder when do they stop considering the outer layers part of the star and not relatively dense solar wind soup. Nobody says Earth has 7000km radius, even tho there's traces of exosphere past 500km.

usrnm 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My layman definition of what a star is is "it's somewhere in the sky and it gives off light". The word "density" wouldn't even come to my mind

Sharlin 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The surface radius of a star is defined based on optical thickness. If you were there, the star would in fact look like a fairly well-defined opaque spheroid with the reported radius. The density of the photosphere plasma is near zero, but there’s a lot of it.

dpriddle 26 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes and no. It’s fluffy on the outside, but at the core it’s likely denser than our sun.

debo_ an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Soundgarden was apparently prophetic with their hit song "Black Hole Sun."

TimeBearingDown 36 minutes ago | parent [-]

May Chris Cornell rest in peace. He should have seen this.