> If IP is real, then the AI companies have performed flagrant theft.

It’s called Derivative Work and it’s a good feature for IP law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivative_work

You wouldn’t like a world where companies could copyright knowledge and then prevent anyone else from making a derivative of that knowledge.

Imagine Wikipedia being taken down for sharing knowledge that another company wrote about first. It’s a bad idea.

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EagnaIonat 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> It’s called Derivative Work

That would be on what the AI model generates, not what it is trained on.

The latter is where the contention is, and it's a valid argument. So much so that some companies are not using stolen information to build their models.

IBM for example indemnifies its models for its customers and has detailed information on where the sources came from to train them.

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Aurornis an hour ago | parent [-]

> The latter is where the contention is, and it's a valid argument

It has been tried in court several ways already. Remember the lawsuit that forced Anthropic to use physical books? They tried to argue that the books couldn’t be trained on at all. It failed.

	▲	porkshoe an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Yes. That judge misunderstood badly, and made a bad ruling.