> the culture has not been stolen - it's still there

It's there in much diminished market, one that has been saturated overnight on a scale previously unfathomable. Their art is still there but it has been used against them to obliterate the playing field.

> nor are the people involved selling it back in any form.

Aren't all of these AI companies selling subscription models for people to create derivative art?

> And let's not forget what we got back for this

Get back for what, exactly? Didn't you just argue that no theft or sellback has occurred?