| ▲ | dubcanada 3 hours ago | |||||||
I think it's just we don't have a way to say/write these numbers. So you make up a way to write them (-1 and 1) and continue. The numbers don't matter and you could replace -1 and 1 with anything. It's just easier to begin your new fake number at - 1 and 1. Because position does matter. | ||||||||
| ▲ | howunfortunate 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||
This is very helpful! Basically what I take away is that we're inventing a new number system from scratch. So we're not "proving" that 1 is a number between 0 and the empty set. We're defining it as such, and it just so happens that a number system defined this way works out in convergent ways with other mathematics. Is that roughly right? | ||||||||
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| ▲ | xg15 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
There has to be some procedure how to come up with "new" numbers though, if you want to have more in the end than just a fancy binary tree - in particular if you want to map your "fake numbers" to the reals, infinity, etc. | ||||||||
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| ▲ | skeledrew 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
> position does matter Only as a mental abstraction that's based on our experience/concept of space+time. | ||||||||
| ▲ | paimapi 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||
that's unnecessarily confusing then - should've used 69 and 420 imho | ||||||||