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user43928 an hour ago

Why would the model not find the vulnerability during implementation or testing before release?

If it requires a lot of compute and trying, this is something that could be provided for common software.

wood_spirit an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Sad that this could well be that the path to OpenAI and Anthropic profitability of this arms race between defending LLM white hatting a company’s website and the black hat LLMs attacking it?

So the whole thing is forcing the good guys to outspend on tokens to preemptively defend against the risk of the bad guys outspending them on tokens, rather than buying tokens to actually add features to the product etc.

So are they creating a market for the solution by helping create the problem? A kind of rent-seeking AI security-industrial complex!!

agileAlligator 34 minutes ago | parent [-]

The only thing AI has changed is that it has dropped both: the cost of attack and the cost of defense. Nothing in the game has materially changed; the game has just sped up.

wood_spirit 34 minutes ago | parent [-]

Who gets rent has changed. It puts me in mind of cloudfare et al

xboxnolifes an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Because it's far cheaper to to not spend the tokens finding the vulnerabilities, and software is now being created and released magnitudes faster than ever before. I could see the huge software companies maybe having fewer vulnerabilities, but I expect to see so much more in the smaller side of things.

techpression 27 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Because people need to spend time and money on that, which they won’t. The implementation is cheap, the review and follow-up is not (speaking from a pure LLM only workflow). My ratio is around 1:2 currently, so twice as much time spent fixing vs building.