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0manrho a day ago

Japan probably won't not attack China (I don't see why they would, not proactively at least), that's not what was being asserted. Japan however may defend Taiwan or allies/neighbors in the south china sea should things go hot there elsewise. And Japan have stated at least some interest in doing so which means that if China wants Taiwan, they might have to contend with japan.

These sort of things can work as a deterrent as much as power projection, and they don't have to get into direct violent/physical conflict for there to be diplomatic tension/worsening of relations as a result. I'm not saying this is most effective use of Japan's resources or focus or that China is for sure going to do anything or making any other such claims, just explaining the potential rational for why China would be non-plussed at Japan over F35 purchases even if they don't feel Japan is gunning for them.

Of course, if china has no actual wartime intentions in Japans sphere of influence, then yeah, they probably give much less of a shit. So depends on what their intentions really are as to how they feel about it. The fact that they're publicly broadcasting displeasure is probably not a sign that they're cool with it though.

Walf a day ago | parent | next [-]

Any protest from China is just painting themselves as being in a defensive position, whilst they make claims over the oceans and territories that the international community disagrees with. Very much not defensive acts.

stickfigure a day ago | parent [-]

It's the Putin playbook. "It's NATO's fault we need to kill Ukranians!"

hdgvhicv a day ago | parent [-]

Putin actually invaded Ukraine. America has threatened to invade Greenland and made noises about Canada.

What has China done new?

m4rtink 19 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Building up submerged reefs to military bases, harassing the Philippine navy regularly, massive fishing fleets strip mining the sea all over the world, melee weapon skirmishes with Indian soldiers in Kashmir ?

throw0101a 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> What has China done new?

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghurs

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Indian_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Indian_border_dispute

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_conflicts_(197...

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Chinese_military_exercise...

* https://www.channelnewsasia.com/east-asia/philippines-south-...

bulbar 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

China has been strategically preparing to do it for years now. It's not just talk from a crazy leader of a democratic country that will be gone in a few years, but is on the official roadmap of a dictatorship for at least a decade.

Walf 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You don't have to drop bombs to invade. If you think China's not invading with its economic policies and activity alone, you're not paying attention. I'm in no way saying western nations are not guilty of the same and worse behaviours (look at how many legitimate governments have been toppled and sanctioned for daring to go against the USA), but China is not friendly.

hdgvhicv 20 hours ago | parent [-]

I see, so your country doesn’t trade with China?

Because they ultimately are managing better in the 21st century than any other country. America had its peak from 1945 to 2001. Britain ran the world in the 19th century. China is the new global superpower.

In an ideal world America would have managed to keep a bipolar world going, but it has decided to abandon that in favour of short term boosts.

Walf 20 hours ago | parent [-]

Quite the non-sequitur.

It does, and I already wrote about western countries being just as guilty of invading, if not more so. None of what you wrote contradicts my point that China is actively expanding and using mainly economic tactics to do it.

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ImPostingOnHN 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Threatened to attack Taiwan, much like russia has threatened to attack many other countries.

Also, China does regularly attack other countries' navies around the South China Sea with no legal justification.

seanmcdirmid 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Even if Japan doesn't want to defend Taiwan, the close geography makes conflict between china and Japan (and the USA) if China invades Taiwan.