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| ▲ | Insanity an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| The borders were continuously shifting, but they did stay somewhat near a focal point for centuries. The US meanwhile has an overseas empire for honestly no good reason. Highly recommend the book “How to hide an empire” which talks about the American version of colonialism. |
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| ▲ | strictnein 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | > The borders were continuously shifting, but they did stay somewhat near a focal point for centuries. Ok? They were still an imperial power. Having a stable border for a little while doesn't affect that definition. > The US meanwhile has an overseas empire for honestly no good reason. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism | |
| ▲ | lovich 20 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | The reason for our overseas empire was to maintain our economic dominance. If everyone voluntarily refused to touch boats and only trade oil for dollars we may have invested differently. |
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| ▲ | kakadu an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > China didn't just form with its current borders. It expanded and contracted and expanded some more for millennia. As did everyone else? I don't see China having military bases all over the world and proping up "freedom fighters" |
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| ▲ | strictnein 34 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I was responding to the incorrect assertion that China was the least imperialist country on the planet, which is clearly false. Maybe read the entire conversation before jumping in? |
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| ▲ | mars-or_wars an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| China's borders today are essentially identical to what they were... ... when the U.S. Declaration of Independence was first uttered in 1776 |
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| ▲ | strictnein 28 minutes ago | parent [-] | | That is completely immaterial and makes absolutely no sense. An imperial power isn't one because its borders were set in 1776 (which they weren't)? Also.. this little event where they added something like 10% of the current size.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1951_Chinese_annexation_of_Tib... But I'm sure that wasn't imperialism because they had already conquered Tibet previously... in an act of imperial expansion. |
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