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againstapples 2 hours ago

I agree they’re kinda weird but are they really that bad?

Viliam1234 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

is dying really so bad compared to admitting that you were wrong and some weirdo was right?

for many people the answer seems to be: not really.

lbrito an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes.

Their core belief system is morally abhorrent.

againstapples 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

What about their beliefs is morally abhorrent?

jplusequalt 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes. Sam Bankman Fried was/is an EA/rationalist (on the short list of biggest fraudsters in American history). So are the Zizian's (a murder cult). etc. etc.

againstapples 21 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I don’t see why I would judge a whole group based on isolated examples?

Viliam1234 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

SBF maybe, but Ziz declared rationalists to be their main enemy

shimman an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah, similar to like how southern baptists declared evangelicals to be their enemy too for not being fanatical enough.

Death cults are weird like that.

jplusequalt an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

And? The Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks were both socialist factions who were coming from the same intellectual milieu, and they killed each other.