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rstuart4133 14 hours ago

> I understand why people want to escape India

That's wrong thing to try and understand. We don't have to accept anybody. As Howard said, "We will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come". And he achieved that. He also orchestrated the biggest proportional uptick in immigration the country has seen this or last century.

Immigration was never driven by people trying escaping India. The issue is our politicians invited them in with open arms. The irony is the very same politicians from the conservative side were pushing their "big Australia" agenda while at the same time noisily ranting against "illegal immigration" with emotive terms like "children overboard".

If you thought Howard was against immigration, you were sucked in by his outright deceptive tactics. He was the biggest immigration proponent I've seen in my lifetime. I'd give it a 50/50 chance of it working out the same way for One Nation. Their core supporters are rural and the elderly. Both are highly dependent on immigrant workers.

The right framing isn't "people escaping India", but rather how many and what type of immigrants the pollies want - because that is what determines what we get. Any politician who tells you otherwise is bullshitting you. Illegal immigration never made much of an impression on the real immigration figures.