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kamranjon a day ago

"Ternary Bonsai 2 27B reaches up to 143 tokens/second on NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 and 46.8 tokens/second on M5 Max. On an RTX 4090, Ternary Bonsai 2 27B consumes just 0.714 mWh/token, making it 40% more energy-efficient than an 8B model running in full-precision."

pizza234 a day ago | parent | next [-]

Their mention of the 5090 is bit odd, since on 32 GB GPUs, Q6 fits while having better quality. Very interesting model for 16 GB GPUs though!

pwython a day ago | parent | next [-]

Sometimes you want a decent model running in the background that doesn't take up all the VRAM.

blurbleblurble a day ago | parent [-]

Or maybe even to run parallel threads of the same model!

sisve a day ago | parent | prev [-]

They mention 5090 with regards to speed, Q6 will not have that speed?

And speed matters a lot for many use cases

selectodude a day ago | parent | next [-]

150 tokens per second on a ternary model implies that it’s GPU bound, I’d bet a Q6 model is even faster because it’s existed longer and seen more optimization. You’d have to be insane to not run an NVFP4 quant over a ternary quant on Blackwell if they both fit.

wincy a day ago | parent | prev [-]

With Ninfer and Qwen 3.8 27b it uses a groupwise int mixed quant, and it gets 160 tokens/sec. The mixed quant is between 4 and 6 bits.

Foobar8568 17 hours ago | parent [-]

Ninfer is compatible with a nvfp4 model for the 27b. Also nowadays I prefer to use the byteshape one, I get less loops, and I am not sure if I really see a difference in speed or quality. Pure vibe agentic coding on a C++ codebase or ocaml one, ocaml one has codex as reviewer as I am more interested by that project, the other is more for fun.

azatom a day ago | parent | prev [-]

it is like "my fridge is 2mkm (millikilometer) from my desk" m=0.001 h=3600 it should be just Ws or just J

_kulang a day ago | parent [-]

What’s wrong with milliwatt hours?

azatom a day ago | parent [-]

https://xkcd.com/2946/

https://xkcd.com/3038/