Modern internet ruined forums and google search sucks hairy balls, and most of the content is SEO optimised ad ridden crap. Its literally impossible to find anything meaningful on the internet nowadays. What else can we do besides asking an LLM these days?

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ashkankiani 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I agree in sentiment, and really a lot of this is Google's doing. It's been around a decade since they switched to approximate results and started encouraging people to search via sentences. I believe this is the one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Hummingbird

The internet for all of its activity is becoming harder to index because the classic dumb search engines were turned into personalized semantic people pleasers.

The classic model for knowledge discovery still exists, though. You find a blog you like, and use that as a thread of knowledge. You join a community and talk with someone and share resources together. Join a small group chat and post with those people. Your knowledge sharing comes from people you share interests with.

Go to a library, ask your coworkers. If you put in the ground-work, it's possible to do that. For seeds of knowledge outside of your local network, at this point you have to find the indexers that work for you.

Personally, I am in the process of writing the infrastructure for my own search engine, and maybe I will share the tech broadly one day. For now, I'll keep my inventions to my closer personal circles.

In general, I think people should be able to more easily maintain their own offline indices, and share knowledge graphs peer-to-peer rather than relying on a centralized one, in my opinion. This tech has no monetization opportunity, though, so I'm guessing that's why it's relatively under-developed, but luckily for me I have enough money and now enough time to develop and release it (and similar tools).

	▲	ontouchstart 2 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> You find a blog you like, and use that as a thread of knowledge. You join a community and talk with someone and share resources together. Join a small group chat and post with those people. Your knowledge sharing comes from people you share interests with. It is hard to find communities where people are not evangelical and soon you become an evangelist. I am using LLMs to build my own graph of thoughts and try my best to follow them with critical eyes. Do not want to be influenced by or influence others.
	▲	Barbing 2 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Thoughts on YaCy’s P2P search model if you’ve seen? https://yacy.net

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mindcrime 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> and most of the content is SEO optimised ad ridden crap.

That was the case long before LLM's even existed though.

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harimau777 2 days ago | parent [-]

I think that the argument is not that it happened before LLMs. Rather, assuming I'm understanding the parent correctly, they are arguing that, due to the enshittification of search and the internet, LLMs are the only way to get information from it. That has definitely been my experience as well.

	▲	mindcrime 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		You may be correct.

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miltonlost 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

An LLM that is now serving ads! And also sucks up to you. And also is wrong confidently.

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AndrewDucker 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Use a different search engine? Kagi works well for me nowadays.