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macic 8 hours ago

The Hurd of browser engines

pveierland 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They are clearly progressing now as a project and the world definitely needs what they are building - it's literally something you can download and run right now.

Rust was started in 2006 (20 years ago) and is now one of the most powerful programming languages, while the Servo project was started in 2012. If they reach parity and beyond of current browsers this could clearly become one of the most important browser engines in the future. Effort very well spent in my opinion.

cogman10 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

At least originally, servo was just an experimental browser with the intention to carve up useful parts and send them back into Firefox. I believe firefox's current css parser came from servo.

flossly 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I remember waiting on the Mozilla project to deliver something that could browse as well on linux as closed source browsers on windows/mac did.

It... took... long...

But there it was. And it still works.

embedding-shape 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Was this recent? Because Firefox were the browser that worked better than all the rest, for quite many years, maybe 2005-2010, and Firefox had no competition basically until Chrome arrived on the scene.

Just the fact that Firefox got browser tabs before anyone else, and Firebug, just took it to another level compared to all the other browsers available at the time.

vlovich123 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Your history is off. Opera was the first mainstream browser to implement tabs and boy was Opera also much faster than Firefox at its peak (both UI, resource usage, and rendering) which overlaps that “peak” Firefox period by a lot.

Firefox was great because it was open source but it wasn’t ever really the “best” browser - it was the best open source browser.

le-mark 6 hours ago | parent [-]

> it was the best open source browser.

Yes that was implied because IE was not mentioned either!

toyg 4 hours ago | parent [-]

When the original Phoenix browser was released, Explorer was in the middle of its slumber with the dreadful v6. Phoenix might not have been as feature-full as IE6, but it was very much the superior experience. It made browsers fun again.

saidinesh5 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Hardware accelerated video decoding (for video playback or for WebRTC) is available via VA-API for both X11 and Wayland. Since firefox-101.0.1-4 package it's enabled by default for Intel/AMD users.

From https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Firefox_Hardware_acceleration

I think that was around 2022-23.

I remember this affecting my laptop video watching a lot. Google meet feeling sluggish on Firefox is also something I remember until very recently..

sspiff 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Google still tries to sabotage Firefox experience on Google Apps, especially Meet but also YouTube and sometimes Google Sheets/Docs as well.

They want to degrade the experience just enough to get you fed up with FF and go (back) to Chrome, without making it absolutely obvious that's what they're doing.

They often label these things as "regressions" because they don't test on Firefox and take forever to fix them. But I can't help but believe it's intentional.

duskdozer 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, exactly. Google products working worse on Firefox is a problem with Google, not Firefox. I'm not sure why the conflict of interest isn't more obvious.

lukan 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Firefox was bad on linux for a long time. Even running the windows ff build via wine/proton got you better performance than the "native" build (I think that was around 10 years ago).

le-mark 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Much longer than 10 years! I’ve been on Linux since 2008 an it was never a problem.

mrmincent 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Feels like ladybird is going to Linux Servo

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messe 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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flossly 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's news! Would be really cool.