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devsda an hour ago

> Frontier intelligence is extremely powerful; the distillation I did off Astra trajectories is proof enough that large models are not going anywhere

Wouldn't admitting this invite trouble due to accusations of distillation flying around between closed and open models.

pyaamb 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

On the flip side, its important to know just how much we would be sacrificing if big frontier gets their way in convincing the courts that distillation is a bad thing

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make3 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Frontier model trainers stole almost all the data they've trained on (the whole internet, all copyrighted).

It's very hard for them to claim the moral high ground here.

It's like stealing an apple from the British Colonial Empire.

p1necone 41 minutes ago | parent [-]

Having the moral high ground matters less than having a big warchest of money to spend on lawyers.

kelvinjps10 36 minutes ago | parent [-]

Does it matter if they companies doing are not in the jurisdiction or even if they are, maybe the can't prove it?

Muromec 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

They can't prove it but can force you to spend time and money to disprove it.

Onavo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think anybody's denying that small models are doing distillation, the issue at hand is frontier lab vs frontier lab when it comes to big models.

sick_of_slop 41 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

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