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sublinear 5 hours ago

Just so you know, the frontend framework wars started and ended pretty quickly in the latter half of the 2010s.

It was the downstream effect of the browser wars settling down and W3C making big moves on getting vendors to finally implement standards that were sorely needed. It had nothing to do with web dev culture.

theamk an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I dunno, here is an entrant from 2025: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45071024

(not a JS dev myself, but I read HN so I see those posts every once in a while..)

sublinear 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

The most urgent needs in frontend web dev were components and state management.

Vue and React won out, and I still don't see that changing for the foreseeable future on the vast majority of corporate web apps. The remaining split is just coke vs pepsi. Basically, a meaningless distinction and stable.

I don't doubt there will always be new tools, but a lot of HN doesn't see the forest for the trees when it comes to web. So many people chime in ignorantly just to be bullies and spread FUD and self-promote. I think that strategy not going to work again for a while. Everyone is very burned out on that overplayed game in all aspects of life, not just web dev.

If anyone is interested in frontend dev, LLMs only further entrench this situation. Now is the time to be creative with mature tools and learn a thing or two. The web summer is upon us, not an autumn of dying tools nor a winter of AI replacing people.

gamessucknow 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Just so you know, the frontend framework wars started and ended pretty quickly in the latter half of the 2010s.

Funny thing on HN. I saw people actively complaining about “JavaScript framework of the week” posts well into the early 2020s… when they were no longer really a thing.

lovich 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> It had nothing to do with web dev culture.

It may not have been started because of web dev culture, but it definitely influenced web dev culture.

sublinear 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Are you a web developer?

lovich 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I was before the market crunched.

What's the reason for the credential check?