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optimalsolver 5 hours ago

Anyway, people don't really consider consciousness when it comes to welfare. I'm pretty sure animals are conscious, and look at factory farming.

The key variable people consider is: Can this thing harm me back?

collingreen 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Even that is rarely the deciding factor (people harm dangerous animals for fun).

Seems as simple as "will this action bring social shame/criticism" for any individual decision.