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sobiolite 5 hours ago

Create an empirically testable theory of biological consciousness and then we can have a meaningful conversation about whether AIs can also have it or not. Until then, this is just so much waffle.

collingreen 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's nice when you can set an impossibly high bar before which you can dismiss all your personal responsibility.

Does this argument work equally well for human slavery for you? We haven't met that bar for humans either. Is wondering about my consciousness waffle or do I get a pass in your book?

causal 21 minutes ago | parent [-]

Your arguments seem bad faith but I'll take the bait...

> an impossibly high bar

Not impossibly high. An imperfect testable theory is achievable, agreeing upon it might be the challenge.

> dismiss all your personal responsibility.

You are staking a moral position. Be careful, you are probably guilty of mistreating other unknowably-conscious entities whilst casting judgment upon others for their position. And the person you are a responding to probably is conscious.

krapp 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why is this only ever demanded of people who criticize the premise that LLMs are conscious beings, whereas the people who believe it simply have to gesture vaguely in the direction of some correlation in language between LLMs and humans, and the matter is considered closed?

What is the empirically tested basis for the null hypothesis that LLMs are conscious until proven otherwise?

causal 27 minutes ago | parent [-]

> LLMs are conscious until proven otherwise

GP comment didn't make this claim at all.

krapp 26 minutes ago | parent [-]

I didn't claim they did.

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