My point about the birth rates is that you need to treat all Western sensibilities as suspect given that they have led to non-viable societies. It doesn’t necessarily mean that every Western sensibility is wrong but that you have to essentially dismiss them all.

On one hand we have a functional society that is growing in wealth and also in population due to native born citizens meeting, getting married, having children.

On the other hand you have stagnant or declining societies (in real GDP terms) where people are not meeting, not getting married, not having children.

The school shootings is just one social ill I bring up, in Europe you have an issue with mass migration and Muslims engaging in mass sex crimes against children. I could go on about others (suicide rates, drug use rates, migration of young native people to other countries).

Does that make sense?

I never claimed there was an insidious outsider conspiracy although of course there is verified flows of foreign money from governments and NGOs to fund leftist causes and groups within Israel. You can look this up yourself, there are ongoing investigations in Congress as far as US moneys are concerned.

In this case I doubt that had much to do with it.

Israelis are well known for disagreeing with their government. This obviously goes beyond disagreement and into traitorous activity and it’s being treated as such by the Israeli government and Israeli public.

I don't think we are ever going to see eye to eye, but thanks for trying to explain.