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0xpgm an hour ago

One thing that is common about middle democracies is that prioritize a bureaucratic elite structure over an entrepreneurship culture, while both the US and China embrace entreprenuership wholeheartedly.

If they changed that they'd perhaps become world powers themselves.

pyrale an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> One thing that is common about middle democracies is that prioritize a bureaucratic elite structure over an entrepreneurship culture

No, that's just the 2010s propaganda fed to you by people who assert that not letting them do whatever they want is "bureaucratic". These very same people are completely fine lobbying legislature for more moat when they benefit from it.

The difference between "middle democracies" or whatever that means and the US is just that politics aren't corrupted enough yet that they can buy whatever they want.

mmrezaie 44 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I did some admin work for the startup around 5 years ago and I have to say EU countries specially mine Sweden is far more clear. In USA you are basically hopeless without a lawyer. but I did a search and for clarity of rule I searched and this came up using AI:

World Bank’s broad “Regulatory Quality” measure supports that direction: Sweden scored 95.28/100 and the US 90.57/100 in its latest comparable 2023 data. I couldn't find EU wide score.

I wanted to help someone to get work visa and I thought it is like Sweden and you just fill a small form, oh boy! We hired a lawyer for just filling the US side application.

petesergeant 8 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Heavily country-dependent, in practice. The UK lets you set up a company online cheaply, quickly, and filing is easy. Insurance is plentiful and sensible, as are business bank accounts. The law is mostly straight-forward. Setting up a German limited-liability company OTOH involves putting down some ghastly large sum as a guarantee.

But yes, Americans are told they have the freest speech and the freest markets, and don't seem to question either.

InsideOutSanta an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's interesting to me that people generally see Europe's regulations as interfering with entrepreneurship, while they see American decisions that give more power to multinational corporations at the expense of smaller companies as a normal part of a free market.

roncesvalles a minute ago | parent | next [-]

Don't you see that the same bureaucracy that adds friction to entrepreneurship also serves the purpose of protecting the incumbents?

It is odious to start a company in the EU. There are many accounts of this on HN itself.

hilbert42 27 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"…as a normal part of a free market."

That's unfettered capitalism at work—"free" implies no bounds. Multinational corporations have never been more powerful now than at anytime in history.

mcv 6 minutes ago | parent [-]

And that hurts the free market. A free market should be transparent, have low barriers to entry, and not be dominated by monopolies or cartels. There's nothing free about American capitalism.

anhner 26 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

well you see, maybe one day they'll be the CEO of that multi-trillion dollar company, so it's better to err on the side of capitalism. /s

hilbert42 36 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"If they changed that they'd perhaps become world powers themselves."

If they were to change some within the citizenry would stand to gain at the expense of others. Inequality would increase.

Seems—for now—middle democracies aren't prepared to pay the high price of social upheaval such a policy would create.

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_heimdall an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The CCP retains too much power over businesses and business leaders for me to consider them to "embrace entrepreneurship wholeheartedly."

gmerc an hour ago | parent [-]

Because the US isn't exactly on the same path, right?

_heimdall 16 minutes ago | parent [-]

On the same path and on the same point of the path are two very different things.

ohyoutravel an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Didn’t China force Meta to unwind Manus? In no way is China embracing entrepreneurs wholeheartedly.

monideas an hour ago | parent [-]

The US has something called CFIUS. This is normal statecraft

ohyoutravel an hour ago | parent [-]

I believe Manus was a Chinese company.

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monideas an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

But Meta isn’t

petesergeant an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The US _also_ embraces rent-seeking, regulatory capture, and the externalization of social and environmental costs as entrepreneurship.

NuclearPM an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

This is just wrong. The US prioritizes billionaires over entrepreneurs.