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cromka 3 hours ago

I find it extremely ironic that big corp openly steals IP en masse to build their models but hackers are still concerned about using same models for their reverse engineering work.

I think at this point the hacking community needs to grow some balls.

cogman10 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's because it doesn't matter how copyrighted material ends up in a project. If an LLM reproduces copyrighted material (which is very hard to verify) then the lawsuit from the copyright owner can still sink even robustly funded projects.

The fact is, open source has much more liability than closed source software does. If copyrighted material ends up inside a private code base it'll be nearly impossible for the owner to discover that and sue.

jandrese an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The tiniest bit of contamination can get a whole project shut down and the creators heavily fined if the lawyers are aggressive enough. It's not worth the risk to a project like Asahi. Generally the law is going to side with whomever has the most lawyers.

xp84 an hour ago | parent [-]

none of this is incorrect, however, how freaking sad is it that in order to get any OS that's not locked down and owned by Apple on the hardware we buy and supposedly own, someone (together with whole open source organizations) has to risk utter financial ruin.

I hate the new system of no ownership and closed everything.

doot 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Excited to see what you contribute to open source against one of the richest and most litigious companies in the world.

bigyabai 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Nothing. I hope those companies go bankrupt, I'm not underwriting their failure to support their customers with my time and effort.

cromka 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Cool. Excited to see you on the pitch next time you comment on a football game.

asveikau 31 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It may not just be about IP but also code quality. As an example, TFA calls the user mode portion "slop" in need of cleanup.