There are quite a few people who murder despite the risk of incarceration. I would love a system that approaches it more like: "you've lost trust of this civilization to act in good faith, and now you will be contained in a way that can rebuild that trust, and you will not be allowed to re-enter this civilization until you have indeed rebuilt that trust."

We'll probably never get there.

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phkahler 3 days ago | parent [-]

There are quite a few people who murder despite the risk of incarceration.

I hate to think how many people would kill if it were not illegal. Think about that. Then tell me its not a deterrent.

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pjmlp 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Easy to figure out when looking back into history and past times where that was accepted even as means to sort out honour issues or bar fights.

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longor1996 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not a lot of people, because if you went and murdered someone, their family (if they have any) would presumably just murder you in turn.

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mitxela 2 days ago | parent [-]

That would make it a lot of people, then. Because now your family murders their family and their family murders your family.

	▲	longor1996 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Yep, and the understandable fear/worry/expectation/knowledge of that possibility happening, is part of the reason that (usually) stops that cycle from starting in the first place.

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jmcqk6 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have no doubt that it can be a deterrent for some. The question is more about whether this is the optimal strategy for addressing the problem.

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intended 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The greater deterrent is knowing you will be caught.