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pkulak 3 hours ago

Is Google still chasing frontier? Seems like they haven't had a "Pro" model in forever. I think a good niche for them would be right where they are now.

kylecazar 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They are. They were supposed to release 3.5 Pro over the summer but haven't because of persistent architectural/technical issues allegedly. Which is better than releasing it in that state imo.

Their AI leadership team has taken some hits recently too, in the form of departures. I believe when they get their bearings they will be competitive again. 3.8 Flash has been a great model for me.

spwa4 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

These are native speech-to-speech models, so I think they've decided not to do that anymore.