| ▲ | codemog 6 hours ago | |
Is this legal? I know I can’t try and break into my neighbors house even if I have no intent of going inside and stealing once I break the lock. | ||
| ▲ | kadoban 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |
> I know I can’t try and break into my neighbors house even if I have no intent of going inside and stealing once I break the lock. They didn't break in. They found a key that their neighbor dropped and returned it. > Is this legal? Generally, yes (though ask a lawyer if you're going to do security work). Security researchers do occasionally get legal flak though, depending on which idiot they annoy by pointing out issues. | ||
| ▲ | bradleybuda 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
It's implied (but sadly not stated) in the post that they asked for baseten's permission before conducting this research. What's interesting to me as someone who has sold a lot of software to a lot of software companies is that many enterprise vendor agreements explicitly allow companies to pentest their vendors with advance notice and coordination. I don't think any of our clients ever exercised that clause; I expect it's going to be exercised a lot more going forward because it's so easy to do now. | ||
| ▲ | nilslindemann 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
Your intuitution is right. At least in Germany it is not legal if not asked for permission first. https://www.nilsbecker.de/rechtliche-grauzonen-fuer-ethische... See also the German Criminal Code, starting with §202a "Data espionage": https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stgb/englisch_st... | ||
| ▲ | stymaar 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
It's not, in most juridictions at least, but it would be insanely stupid for baseten to sue (and the hacker would probably not get much more than a slap on the wrist given that they weren't malicious). | ||
| ▲ | samus 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
They probably negotiated a "permission to attack" before letting Strix off the leash, as pentesters usually do. | ||
| ▲ | Sparkle-san 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
when t̶h̶e̶ ̶P̶r̶e̶s̶i̶d̶e̶n̶t̶ an AI company does it, that means that it is not illegal. - AI Richard Nixon | ||
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