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codemog 6 hours ago

Is this legal? I know I can’t try and break into my neighbors house even if I have no intent of going inside and stealing once I break the lock.

kadoban 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> I know I can’t try and break into my neighbors house even if I have no intent of going inside and stealing once I break the lock.

They didn't break in. They found a key that their neighbor dropped and returned it.

> Is this legal?

Generally, yes (though ask a lawyer if you're going to do security work). Security researchers do occasionally get legal flak though, depending on which idiot they annoy by pointing out issues.

bradleybuda 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's implied (but sadly not stated) in the post that they asked for baseten's permission before conducting this research.

What's interesting to me as someone who has sold a lot of software to a lot of software companies is that many enterprise vendor agreements explicitly allow companies to pentest their vendors with advance notice and coordination. I don't think any of our clients ever exercised that clause; I expect it's going to be exercised a lot more going forward because it's so easy to do now.

nilslindemann 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Your intuitution is right. At least in Germany it is not legal if not asked for permission first.

https://www.nilsbecker.de/rechtliche-grauzonen-fuer-ethische...

See also the German Criminal Code, starting with §202a "Data espionage":

https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stgb/englisch_st...

stymaar 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's not, in most juridictions at least, but it would be insanely stupid for baseten to sue (and the hacker would probably not get much more than a slap on the wrist given that they weren't malicious).

samus 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They probably negotiated a "permission to attack" before letting Strix off the leash, as pentesters usually do.

Sparkle-san 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

when t̶h̶e̶ ̶P̶r̶e̶s̶i̶d̶e̶n̶t̶ an AI company does it, that means that it is not illegal.

- AI Richard Nixon

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