> I don’t like the idea that anything I say in a public setting or in a conversation with others could end up in a transcript summary on someone’s personal device.

Pretty minor if it's just that individual. But for certain this means there is a transcript on Apple's servers that can be subpoenaed by law enforcement, or sooner or later, searchable without a warrant.

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lbrito 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It certainly will _not_ be just for that individual.

Believing in that would be like believing web tracking is only ever used to "enhance your browsing experience".

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edgyquant 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No it’s bad even for an individual why does someone I speak to need to ever have a transcript of our chat? I understand in a professional setting but if we’re just having a drink its weird

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unregistereddev 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

One intriguing use I encountered was a doctor who automatically transcribed the conversation during an appointment. This has HIPAA concerns, of course, and I think (hope, at least) that this was in the context of medical software that is designed to be HIPAA compliant. But it was an interesting way for a doctor to try and avoid missing something in conversation.

I agree with you that it's weird outside of professional settings.

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fragmede 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Because having a chat with you was special and I want to remember it but my aging fallible human brain is going to forget it, so I'd like to be able to remember it and hold on to and cherish that moment we shared.

	▲	paimapi 8 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		"I want to replace the human experience with SQL queries" in a nutshell if chats are so important to you, write it down, with your hand. journaling is fun and great and there's evidence that it's good for your mental health because it allows you intentional time for introspection and insight-building
	▲	nyc_data_geek 8 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		It's special because it's ephemeral.
	▲	anigbrowl 8 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		You're definitely going to forget it if you don't have to make any effort to remember it.
	▲	epolanski 8 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Then write a note, stop recording me. If you can't be bothered, it wasn't that meaningful or important.

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Byvrsakjo10 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, even with Meta glasses like those things record everything that the user sees, but the flock camera situation is really concerning their cameras are everywhere and I think they can also hear what people are saying

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_fat_santa 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They would have to encrypt it in such a way where even if Law Enforcement went to apple with a subpoena, they would not be able to hand over that data at a technical level.

The better way IMHO is use local models so data never actually leaves the device.

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scotty79 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

We really need to figure out how to encrypt everything on device with keys controlled by the owner of the device.

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ethagnawl 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"We" could also just opt-out of purchasing/using all of this crap.

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hkt 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Entirely technically feasible, and has been for years and years..

..but impossible to have unless you control the operating system that is distributed with phones that normal people will use.

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generalizations 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"We"?

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scotty79 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah, we, the software developers.

Any recordings should be kept in something akin to password manager.

Heck, all of my data in any app should be kept in something like that.

	▲	generalizations 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Problem is, that's a hardware problem. Try asking Apple nicely to open their ecosystem; the appropriate expected response is, bring your own phone. That being said, I do actually expect that this stuff will (generally*) stay on-device. Apple's oddly good about that.