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pjc50 a day ago

The war(s), especially with the impact on pipelines and the Houthis taking over more of Yemen, are finally affecting fuel prices and hence turning the global economic outlook less positive.

You can print money, but you can only ""print"" oil for a short time from reserves, which the US and China have been draining.

whateveracct a day ago | parent | next [-]

Not just reserves, but also all the oil already on ships slowly making its way to its destination. I think I even saw someone predict that around September, the oil issue would get worse due to how slowly those ships move.

Onewildgamer a day ago | parent [-]

Are you referring to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf3rHAXOZj0

danans a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> You can print money, but you can only ""print"" oil for a short time from reserves, which the US and China have been draining.

What's different between the two is that apparently China hasn't made an equivalent dent in its oil reserves, despite no significant reduction in travel, and despite reducing its import demand by 1 OPEC.

It's not entirely clear how - but theories include shifts from flights to train travel and shifts from gasoline cars to EVs.

Apparently the main reason they have started buying crude again is not for internal consumption as much as taking advantage of the massive crack spread in refined petroleum products (like diesel) which they export.

ethagnawl a day ago | parent | next [-]

> It's not entirely clear how - but theories include shifts from flights to train travel and shifts from gasoline cars to EVs.

From a distance, those look like pretty sound theories.

It's wild that the pols and talking heads in the US have been screeching about how "dangerous" China is since the 90s (I remember family members making crude jokes about why I should be learning Mandarin instead of Spanish in middle school) and, yet, here we are doing everything we can to hand them the reins of world power.

CursedSilicon a day ago | parent [-]

As The Onion put it eons ago [1]

"There's no shame in being second best!"

[1] https://youtu.be/53tGLKlsQv8

pjc50 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> China hasn't made an equivalent dent in its oil reserves

I think the easiest explanation is that this probably isn't true. The US SPR is underground, it would be quite easy for China to manage its equivalent in secret, for whatever reasons.

The Chinese EV shift is real and significant, though.

CharlesDodgson a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

China has slowed replenishing its reserves as it'd prefer to buy on dips. It's dipping in at times, not releasing barrels to the open market. https://www.reuters.com/commentary/reuters-open-interest/chi...

mono442 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

EVs are a minority in China outside of a few biggest cities.

danans a day ago | parent [-]

> EVs are a minority in China outside of a few biggest cities

Those biggest cities are majorly influential in absolute energy demand and also patterns of use.

The second tier cities will be buying the big cities used EVs in not too long.

debo_ a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> massive crack spread

geoka9 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> turning the global economic outlook less positive

Specifically, mounting inflation expectations, no? Investors wouldn't want to park their money at 4% if they expect inflation that is close or higher than that.

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