You're confusing present danger with future danger - in the future, AI and the supporting hardware may be ubiquitous (fat client scenario) - you can observe yourself presentation of laptops/machines with large RAM and high bandwidth.

Additionally, there at different doom scenarios (thin client scenario) - it's possible that AIs centralized but sufficiently entrenched in society, can't be shut down without considerable harm.

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SketchySeaBeast 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

If someone has a fat client powerful enough to do all that, is a kill switch going to work? If we assume there's bad actors using the tech, why wouldn't there be bad actors building it?

But if we don't think about any of this, hearing an expert say "we need a kill switch" sure makes our current AI seem super powerful and exciting, doesn't it?

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pizza234 2 days ago | parent [-]

> If someone has a fat client powerful enough to do all that, is a kill switch going to work?

My comment didn't mention kill switches at all - I've presented plausible conditions for a loss of control scenario, so I'm not sure you're actually following the conversation.

Having said that, it seems that you haven't read the (definitely poor) article, either.

"Kill switch" as a design principle, that is, having protocols/implementations for emergencies, is something that companies are already implementing (at least, on paper) - on a interview I've watched for example, S.Altman talked about having them at OpenAI.

The article simply mentions that companies should be legally required to have such protocol(s). This is a good thing, as companies would have scrutiny and would (in principle) have to put serious effort.

	▲	moralestapia 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		TFA is all and only about a 'kill switch' for AI. I'm not sure you're the one following the conversation.

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toasty228 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Meanwhile we're rationing ram sticks like we rationed potatoes during ww2 and a gaming gpu costs 2 to 10 months of rent, I think we'll see these fat clients coming....

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NoPicklez 2 days ago | parent [-]

Eventually like most things in tech it will become cheaper and the average person will have these capabilities. Right now they can't but they will.

	▲	BobbyTables2 a day ago \| parent [-]
		You realize there was a time when decent GPUs used to be much cheaper than decent CPUs?

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jansport123 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

i don't think anyone knows how this will play out - everyone is just anthropomorphizing, extrapolating etc... and i think it's nonsense - not because i don't believe that is the correct thing to do but because i believe this won't stop anyone from moving forward. This is what humans do, they move forward and cause others to move forward or lose out.

	▲	pizza234 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		For sure, but as individual one can start educating themselves about the current capabilities and the trajectory. Do yourself a favor a read the METR analysis of the HuggingFace attack - you'll be surprised and terrified.