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pc86 37 minutes ago

I mean, to pick what is perhaps the easiest example, wanting to abridge speech is anti-American by its very definition.

It is possible to have a thing that is anti-American. So I'm not sure what good it is to reject the term altogether.

rickdeckard 29 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It could e.g. be "anti-democratic" by a universal definition of democracy and civil liberties which no single country then gets to fork and redefine...

8note 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

its encoded in the US constitution, so its anti-american.

it can be anti-other things too, but its certainly anti-american

smallmancontrov 9 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Let's suppose you had your way and the cultural concept of America as a set of ideas and values related to democracy were erased. Would the universal non-national concepts of democracy and civil liberties have been able to inspire Mike Pence to stand up to Donald Trump on January 6th?

Joker_vD 25 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Ah, I see, it's the same as "un-American", only without being a word too onerous to use (yet) due to obvious historical implications.