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immibis2 2 hours ago

This is not the first time someone has experienced this and written or generated an article on the Internet which made front-page HN. Nor is it the one hundred thousandth time this someone has experienced this and not written or generated an article, or had the article not reach front-page HN.

At least this person is suing Google for it. Under EU law, they might actually win.

But why is the article AI-written? That is not helping your case.

cj an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> why is the article AI-written?

Can you share what the tells are?

I am not seeing obvious tells. And I see multiple tells that clearly are NOT AI, like imperfect sentence structure.

It seems information dense, and doesn't seem like an obviously shit article?

If you're going to complain, can you explain what you're complaining about?

avazhi an hour ago | parent | next [-]

It's pretty blatant, but just have a glance at the subheadings to remove any doubt.

cj an hour ago | parent [-]

Examples?

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avazhi an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I just gave them to you. I'm not gonna copy paste shit you can easily find yourself on the page, bud.

applfanboysbgon an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

At a certain point you need to develop your own media literacy. The article is literally dripping with Claudisms in every line.

cj an hour ago | parent [-]

Examples?

applfanboysbgon an hour ago | parent [-]

Your media literacy training can start with skimming headings. When every heading sounds like Buzzfeed clickbait, emphasizing and contrasting numbers with a sort of faux-punchiness to them, or overusing "the" to make things sound more definitive than they actually are, or... on and on, it really couldn't be more obvious.

> Six emails, one button

> The hotline sends you to the office. The office sends you to the hotline.

> The bank could. Google couldn't.

> Three companies at one address

> A company wih 105 million in capital, five employees and zero website

> The address Google did not show its customers for two and a half years

> People who left, and people who came

> Germany: the court that ordered the data to be returned

> Ireland: where the other party to the agreement lives

> What disappears with the inbox

Or the "in brief" at the top, which is spamming numbers as though they add dramatic tension. Or, just like, every. fucking. sentence. You know, years of reading this shit can't be distilled into a comment. Have you not been reading articles for the last three years? LLMs have very distinct voices.

ShadowOfThePit 27 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Additionally:

> The phone sent me to the address. The address sent me back to the phone. The loop closed in one day.

> This is not a mess. A mess looks different. This is a design (...)

> One account, four companies. Each does exactly what it was created to do, and each is fully within the law. (...) Nobody here breaks the law. And that is exactly why there is no one to go to. (Attempted conclusion)

> One empty chair remains in this puzzle. (???)

> The eloquent individual history comes from India. (eloquent???)

> What does this mean for the user? Simply that when the inbox was disabled on September 1 (...) (Talking in third person about himself?)

> Google can be sued in Poland. (No shit)

> Google itself publishes the rules for such an eventuality, which sounds almost like politeness. (WDYM it "sounds like politeness"??)

It's so bad how hard AIs try to sound smart.

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WesolyKubeczek 27 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Jesus fuck, would you get off your high horse already? This is every investigative article heading since before Dario or Sam even finished high school.

Seeing LLMs everywhere is another kind of AI psychosis.

applfanboysbgon 21 minutes ago | parent [-]

Can you show me one long-form investigative article from, let's say before 2020, that is nearly this dense with this BS? A single headline or a punchline here or there doesn't count; what makes it an LLM tell is that it's fucking constant, being abused and misused to add dramatic tension to things that aren't dramatic. The "humans do this too" defense is so tiring because you people never draw a distinction between a human doing something correctly as a rhetorical flourish and a bot spamming a learned trope over and over and over and over again in every single sentence without any regard for whether it makes sense to.

yonaguska an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Probably not a native speaker.

isaacfrond 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'd say it's totally immaterial how it was written

cynicalsecurity an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It doesn't read as AI generated at all, it's got distinct Polish style. It could have been AI-reviewed, judging by the ugly Oxford commas.

Moral of the story is not simply "don't use free accounts". His account was not free, he had a paid Google Workspace. The moral of the story Google and other big American corporations are absolutely unaccountable in Europe. We should stop using their services and switch to our European sovereign service providers. Big American corporations can block even business accounts as they please and ignore European laws and courts.

egorfine an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> Under EU law, they might actually win.

So what? They will ignore the decision of the court, just like the author explains they did.