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pjc50 2 hours ago

Really Western Europe has been ignoring Russia's war for far too long; the MH17 shootdown was in 2014 and the situation has only deteriorated since then.

DrScientist 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Not sure how MH17 shooting is relevant here.

While the consensus is that it's likely a Russia controlled/allied battery shot it down - I'm not sure anybody thinks it was anything other than an accident, not an intentional act of sabotage.