| ▲ | wodenokoto 3 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think it is overall a well written and engaging article on a topic I knew nothing about. However, about half way through the author writes > The only place on the whole island where the two worlds nearly collide is the Markham valley […] Author then goes into a bit of detail on that place before giving two reasons why he believes “that”. Two reasons I cannot for the life of me parse > The reason why I believe that, despite the minimal trade that existed, the highlands were functionally cut off, is that when the Europeans occupied New Guinea, they themselves did not ever speak of or show knowledge of the highlanders. Similarly, when the highlanders first encountered Australians, they had no concept of the coastal people, or where the shells came from, or any further concept of the broader world. So the reason the highlanders world nearly collided with the coastal dwellers at Markham Valley is because the Europeans didn’t meet the highlanders when they occupied the island? The other reason is to do with genetics, which I find equally detached from the core subject of those paragraphs. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | bradrn 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
No, the reason it occurred in the Markham Valley is because of the bit immediately after that sentence: > a 1,000 metre climb over about 30 km takes you straight up onto the edge of the eastern highlands i.e. because the Markham River provides a pathway from the Lowlands into the Highlands. The paragraph you quote concerns a different proposition, as may be clearer if some of the subordinate clauses are elided: > The reason why I believe that […] the highlands were functionally cut off, is that […] they themselves did not ever speak of or show knowledge of the highlanders. Similarly, when the highlanders first encountered Australians, they had no concept of the coastal people, or where the shells came from, or any further concept of the broader world. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | npilk 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
If it helps, he's saying those two reasons are the evidence that the highlands were completely cut off, not that those are the cause of the highlands being cut off. As opposed to an alternate history where there was significant trade or interaction between the highlands and coastal peoples. > The reasons why I believe that ... the highlands were functionally cut off is ... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | helsinkiandrew 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Jared Diamond (not sure which book - perhaps Guns, Germs and Steel) makes the claim that it was because areas were productive enough that people didn't need to move and also heavily protected from other incursion from other tribes - travelling outside your groups territory or meeting a group of people you didn't know was effectively suicide. So although there was occasional trade - no people or knowledge was transferred - which explains why there's over 1000 (very different) languages. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||