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▲ sorenjan 4 hours ago

A Russian warship fired flares at a Danish military helicopter in international waters in the Baltic sea too.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwn8mjl31p5yo

▲vincnetas an hour ago | parent | next [-]

on same day today: Nato jets down drone that entered Lithuanian airspace

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjx2zgk7edlzo

▲hagbard_c 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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▲preuceian 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The climate activists mostly do something stupid like obstructing traffic, unlike the farmers, who obstruct traffic in a way you apparently consider rational.

▲crote 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Of those, the "tractors on highways" is the only one which has resulted in someone dying. So much for rational...

▲phoghed 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Driving is dangerous business. We tend to forget since it’s so commonplace and integral to our lives. Cars have gotten much safer though, no longer the top cause of TBI in the US

▲jaapz an hour ago | parent [-]

The cause was tractors stopping all traffic on a highway, setting up show with barbecues and what not. Then some people drove into the tail of the traffic jam.

Has nothing to do with driving being dangerous, but with the choices of these farmers to start a demonstration in the middle of a highway

They already did it a few times before, and they were warned that they should expect killing people. The question was not if, but when. They still did it.

▲teekert 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think national news indeed is somewhat carefully suggesting farmers (ie [0]), actually it looks like it is escalating and they burning hay now. This article speaks of "Radical Farmer Leaders".

[0] https://nos.nl/liveblog/2631038-hooibalen-in-brand-langs-sne...

▲hagbard_c 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The NOS is not the most unbiased news source in the Netherlands which is unfortunate. If it is indeed 'radical farm leaders' who are behind these sabotage actions they have turned up the temperature quite a bit and stand to lose a lot of support from the public. It would be a strange thing to do since there is not much overlap between farming and railways in the Netherlands, a small country with a strong agricultural sector which' products mostly travel by road, water and air.

▲piva00 3 hours ago | parent [-]

These same farmers? [0]

[0] https://www.dutchnews.nl/2026/08/two-killed-on-a59-as-tracto...

▲pjc50 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Ah, the magic of being a rightwing populist, which gives you a free pass to do illegal things (drive a tractor on the motorway) even if that results in fatalities.

▲hagbard_c 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, just like these [1] German border guards. Next time they should bring a sign like the one shown in the article.

For those who don't read Dutch and can't be bothered to translate the article: Germany has restarted border checks which at the time of writing of this article had caused 171 accidents, some of which lethal.

[1] https://www.gelderlander.nl/zevenaar/na-171-ongelukken-bij-d...

▲immibis2 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't get this thing where "X killed people. Oh, just like Y killed people" when X and Y are entirely unrelated.

If you say "Ukraine kills people in the war? Well Russia also kills people in the war" at least they are quite related and an argument can be made from that starting point. But what's with "Some people died in a space shuttle explosion. Well, sharks also kill people"

▲piva00 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Whatabout is quite tiring, we are talking about the farmers you are defending as "rational", and absolving them from being the source of issues...

Can we keep on topic?

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▲krige 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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▲sedan_baklazhan 3 hours ago | parent [-]

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▲dakolli 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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▲cyclopeanutopia 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Russia is involved in many acts of sabotage in Europe over past 2 or 3 years, so this is a very natural first guess for us, European citizens. They also started increasing their activity recently.

▲shakna 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Today is also Prinsjesdag. So pissed off Dutch is more likely. As it has been, for the last three years running with highways getting blocked on this day...

▲markvdb 3 hours ago | parent [-]

One, the other, or a mix of both! If I were a foreign agent wanting to sow chaos, I'd look for the easy to press buttons. Encouraging pissed-off Dutch citizens would be an obvious part of the plan.

▲IhateAI 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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▲retinaros 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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▲junon 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Do you live in Germany?

▲ImHereToVote 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Like what? Any confirmed acts?

▲huurtehoog 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_sabotage_operations_in...

▲frereubu 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

These acts are subterfuge by their nature so you're not going to get Putin coming on TV and saying "lol it was me".

"There is no proof at this stage to link the flying bomb directly to Russia, which denies any role. But as well as the means and the motive, Moscow does have form. The BBC has seen details of the investigation into a plot in 2024 in which Russian-linked proxies in Poland and Lithuania not only handled drones and explosives but also delivered them to Germany."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgdmrxxkdxo

▲crazybonkersai 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Except that none of cases were proven. For one, recent attempts to blow up power lines in Germany were done by a German individual. Or remember how Russia was accused for blowing up Nord Stream. It never made any sense, but still European politicians and Western media fiercely pushed this narrative.

Get some critical media literacy and stop listening to NAFO trolls.

▲cbg0 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Where are you getting the "correct" narrative from?

▲crazybonkersai 3 hours ago | parent [-]

By reading multiple sources by different parties and thinking for yourself. Truth is the first casualty of war.

▲piva00 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's the usual trope used as an escape for the question: where are your sources?

Provide them or stop being so defensive about it, being defensive just shows you got not substance to your claim. Show, don't tell, if you can't show then you might have to do some more thinking by yourself to figure out why you ended up that way.

▲cbg0 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And are these multiple sources 50% biased towards one side and 50% biased towards the other side? If so, how can you tell? And are you doing an average of what "the truth" is at the end?

▲crazybonkersai 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You wait for 20 or more years for documents become unclassified and historians to do their job.

▲cbg0 2 hours ago | parent [-]

So in the meantime you have no real opinion about anything?

▲crazybonkersai an hour ago | parent [-]

Not at all, I take ungrounded claims like this with a grain of salt.

▲icantevenhold 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

None of the cases were proven is a bold claim.

It’s hard to prove these things of course but you have to ask yourself who benefits most from these kind of attacks and sabotage? Who benefits from a weakened and infighting Europe?

Hybrid warfare is by definition hard to attribute

▲crazybonkersai 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You can use the same logic about shit happening in Russia too. E.g. EU meddling in elections in Russia. Western security apparatus was behind Crocus City Hall attack. Ukrainian drones are launched from European countries and EU is actively involved in planning these attacks . All these claims were made by Russian media and politicians. Do you believe these as well, considering EU benefits the most from the weak Russia?

▲cyclopeanutopia 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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▲phoghed 3 hours ago | parent [-]

You’re better off just giving them a news article or something, because “many such cases” is basically a meme

▲cyclopeanutopia 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Someone else did in this thread, but tbh I'm not inclined to give people behaving like Russian trolls too much of the benefit of doubt.

▲bilekas 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They have a habit of being involved. It's not exactly plucked out of thin air!

▲rebolek 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm trained by Russian occupation of my country.

▲IhateAI 3 hours ago | parent [-]

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▲smodo 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There are some indications that make Russian saboteurs a very likely culprit. It would be unwise to look at every occurrence of sabotage as a singular incident in the context of the ongoing campaign against European political stability.

https://www.universiteitleiden.nl/en/news/2025/01/research-e...

https://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/sabotage-deutschland-bka...

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▲retinaros 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I knew before clicking it will be one of the things they say. people are sheeps. they will say whatever they think is right up to a limit. then they will break this limit and punish everyone that is deviating from it. this is what happened in nazi germany, soviet union, china and in the US under biden and I can already see the premises of the next term of US presidency through the lindsay clancy reaction from millions of women. to me it feels like we broke this limit in the modern developed world now. sad that as humans we cant use our brains for better than following what our hiveminds say is truth

▲cicko 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Right. Instead, we should do whatever someone writes in an anonymous forum.

▲markus_zhang 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Who did it is irrelevant. The more important thing is who the propaganda is blaming. Then we know what the elites (behind this piece of propaganda) want.

▲scrollop 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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