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bigstrat2003 a day ago

Well, that's a blessing at least. It was painful watching the butchering of Star Trek over the last decade.

zingar a day ago | parent | next [-]

Noooo Strange New Worlds was the best thing that ever happened to trek

evanelias 19 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The current season has been rather divisive, to say the least. I mean some of these episodes currently have IMDB ratings in the mid 4's to mid 5's range out of 10: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12327578/episodes/?season=4

Personally I didn't hate the gimmick episodes, but enjoying them sort of requires no longer taking the show seriously at all.

rickydroll 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The gimmicky episodes were highly entertaining to my decidedly non-Trekkie wife. She loved the Star Trek Muppet episode ("Star Trek in Spaaaaaace") and the soap-opera episode.

As for taking the show seriously, I don't take any of it seriously. It's a telenovela, or maybe we should say Stellanovela. Most episodes build a fairly cohesive story, then break loose, and those old scientists have fun with the Star Trek universe. It's not like they're acting in a Chekhov play.

evanelias 8 hours ago | parent [-]

re: taking it seriously, I meant more in terms of whether it is "good art" vs disposable entertainment. On the whole, I felt that TNG and DS9 both eventually found the right balance of drama and humor, often with an intelligent underlying message about aspects of our society and culture. The modern Star Trek shows are sorely lacking in that area!

rsynnott 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Eh, I mean TNG, which is probably the best-regarded series, had its fair share of duds, and not just in the not-very-good first season. In particular, I am thinking of the episode where Data's cat turned into a lizard.

> A transporter malfunction turns most of the crew into puppets while Spock fights to reclaim the ship.

evanelias 10 hours ago | parent [-]

The difference is the sheer number of gimmick episodes: so far half the episodes this season fall into that category. Did you actually watch that puppet episode you're quoting? Gimmick aside, it had one of the dumbest endings of any Star Trek episode I can think of.

rsynnott 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Nope; haven’t seen any of this series. The streaming situation for it, at least in this country, is a bit of a mess. But it sounds from the description like a do-over of the cat lizard episode, more or less.

evanelias 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Ehh, maybe that notion times ten. These recent episodes are far goofier and more nonsensical than that TNG episode. (and again, my view on them is far less harsh than many of the reviews I've seen online...)

At least the TNG duds attempted some kind of sci fi technobabble explanation for whatever hijinks were occurring. With this season of SNW, we're getting plot devices like "missing resistance leader just happened to look identical to Enterprise's first officer by complete coincidence!" and "spooky derelict ship is haunted, no explanation even attempted!" ... there are worse ones I could reference but they're spoilers. I'm genuinely starting to wonder if an LLM is writing these scripts.

monocasa a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Lower Decks is so good too.

lotrjohn a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Picard was great! Romulans, Borg, Q, Data!! What more could you ask for?!

malfist a day ago | parent | next [-]

A plot?

zorak8me a day ago | parent [-]

lol burnnnn

ThrowawayR2 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I could ask for them not to show graphic torture onscreen, yuck. Decided to skip Picard once I heard about that.

UltraSane a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I consider Picard Season 2 the worst season of TV ever made.

TiredOfLife 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Being at least average and not shit

ghaff 14 hours ago | parent [-]

To be honest, I'm not sure to what degree my reaction to increasingly random dips into recent Trek has been around them just not being that good as a whole vs. just being tired of the franchise after many decades at this point.