| ▲ | njovin an hour ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Everyone is missing maybe the biggest point - this isn't just a VR device. You can run some/many (depending on your library) of your regular Steam games on a 'flat screen' inside the VR environment, which makes this much more like a SteamDeck with a giant private screen for a lot of people. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | MBCook 18 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I don’t see that as the biggest point. I really don’t have much interest in playing normal games in VR. I could see how a kid might want that on Quest when they don’t have their own TV. And it might be nice on a plane. But $1000 is a lot for that. I know people say that watching video in the Vision Pro is really nice, I wasn’t that thrilled when I tried it, but it felt to me more like a “you can do this because you have the hardware“ not a“ this is why you buy it” feature. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | chaosharmonic an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think even that's an understatement. My tinfoil-hat take is that Lepton looks like it's just aimed at Facebook but will ultimately make Google's Android less... uniquely impenetrable. Certain hardware-dependent stuff will probably never fully work here (GPS for instance), but having a registry of what is and isn't compatible with a third-party Android derivative, on a specific reference device, will benefit every third-party Android derivative. And not that it won't have similar anticheat issues, but having a games ecosystem outside of Google Play will also cover some of the infrastructure that would require that dependency otherwise -- including payments. And not that I don't see a net positive if gacha games never successfully make the jump... but as a Linux device there's also a lot of stuff where you just don't have to care about Play Integrity, because instead you can just run the PC version and/or a desktop browser. (edit: shameless plug for my recent, longer writeup on this: bhmt.dev/blog/frame) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | JeremyNT an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Admittedly my VR glasses are older, but for me this is a really terrible experience. If a game lacks native VR support, it's far more comfortable to just use my widescreen monitor in the real world. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | wnevets 8 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
That sounds like a worse experience to me. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | wolvoleo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Honestly as a VR enthusiast this is the least interesting feature by far. If I want to game with glasses I'll just use my $200 xreal airs. I do sometimes on holidays using Samsung DeX and a gamepad, and GeForce now. Works well, I played through half of Cyberpunk that way. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | thefz an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> You can run some/many (depending on your library) of your regular Steam games on a 'flat screen' inside the VR environment I can already run 100% of my Steam games on a flat screen in front of my real eyes | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | Waterluvian 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Not trying to proselytize an opinion here, but every time I think about VR Goggles + a virtual flat screen, I think about how entire industries exist to make us comfortable while we watch our real flat screens. A VR option would allow me to just lay comatose-like in my bed, goggles affixed to my face, as I watch whatever. It terrifies me, partly because of how good I bet it could feel. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | kakacik an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
How long is that comfortable? For sure not couple of hours in 1 go | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | ninininino an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
That's already true for most PC VR headsets. Edit: I missed the point here, see reply. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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