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Kuyawa 3 hours ago

Siri was the first widely available AI bot but they forgot to open it to developers. The ecosystem would have grown a million fold in all these years

Never underestimate the power of a bored programmer

  Siri turn on the lights
  Siri code a Doom clone in Swift
  Siri design a landing page for a Consulting Agency
  Siri summarize the latest news about AI
  Siri find a solution to the Riemann hypothesis
Now that's an agent I'd use. Can we start with Siri for the terminal?

$ Siri 'List the files in this folder'

cobolcomesback 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Amazon did exactly this with Alexa skills and it hasn’t exactly been a booming success. Turns out that all of the things you listed as examples are stuff that most consumers don’t actually want or will use.

“AI as a chat bot” has always been cool and fun in sci-fi movies, but it’s the least imaginative real world use for it. We need to move past it.

> $ Siri 'List the files in this folder'

Why in the world would I ever use this instead of just ‘ls’?

ryandrake 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> Turns out that all of the things you listed as examples are stuff that most consumers don’t actually want or will use.

I've never understood this obsession with trying to invent the talking ship computer from Star Trek TNG. The purpose of the talking computer in the series was not to be a "cool 24th century technology advancement". It was a plot device to keep the story going and explain things to the audience. Having a voice conversation with a computer is terrible, imprecise, plodding UX. It's not a good interface, it's not a good invention, it's not good technology. Yet $billions are being spent to try to invent it.

jnsie an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Alexa's big issue for me was that you had to remember very specific commands and unless you remembered the exact syntax you were out of luck. I genuinely think if the AI had been better and had been able to interpret commands better, skills would have been infinitely more useful.

bastawhiz 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The problem with Alexa is that by the time it appeared anywhere other than Echo devices, it was already deeply enshittified. Siri is in your pocket, on your wrist, and in your ears. Alexa was stuck on your kitchen counter asking you if you wanted to try Amazon Music.

mhurron an hour ago | parent [-]

> Siri is in your pocket, on your wrist, and in your ears

and more often than not isn't reliable unless you have a midwestern US accent.

Siri wasn't good. It still isn't good. Apple hasn't delivered on its promises with it and that's why it's being replaced with Gemini.

d675 33 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

distribution. MacBooks are everywhere and already used by devs

runjake an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Can we start with Siri for the terminal?

It already exists in macOS 27: fm(1)

It is an extremely powerful tool, but here are the basics:

  # Ask the default on-device model
  fm respond 'Explain this shell error in plain English: permission denied'

  # Start a conversation
  fm chat --instructions 'Let's talk about economics.'

  # Use the larger Private Cloud Compute model
  fm respond --model pcc 'Are zebras and horses related?'

  # Pipe stuff to a model
  echo 'What is Swift?' | fm respond
divbzero 16 minutes ago | parent [-]

fm = Foundation Models

https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2026/334/

Dennip 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'd settle for a siri that can at least turn the lights off properly.

Google assistant on the nvidia shield left Siri in the dust years ago. Siri can't even chain basic commands in your smart home, it can't retain any kind of context (e.g. dim the lights...a bit more).

Machado117 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Just today running latest developers beta, I asked Siri to turn on the coffee machine and it started playing some song instead. I found out later that I had named the switch coffee machine plug. Similar thing happens when I ask Siri to play my favorite songs and it starts to play a song named favorite from my library

prepend an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I gave up on using Siri for my lights because 1/3 of the time it would get caught in a “who is speaking? Please go through the voice configuration to identify yourself.”

This was frustrating for me as it always prompted “who cares? Just turn off the lights.” As well as would drive my parents and other guests batty.

mulderc 33 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have used Siri for years and turning on and off lights has never been an issue.

dbbk an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The year is 2026 and "Siri mark my medication as taken" returns "I'm sorry I can't do that"

dawnerd an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That’s the weird part. For me it used to work very well, then after some update it just stopped. Typical Apple.

xattt an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Can we continue it to be somehow room-aware?

verdverm an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Siri is Gemini now (Semeni?) so expect similar stories from both major phone OS providers going forward, since we have lost more diversity in the mobile market (seems anti-trustworthy to me)

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Tagbert 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You haven’t used the beta

c-hendricks 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I tried "turn off the lights in [room a] and [room b]" in the new Siri app and rather than Siri saying they can't do compound commands they just turned off the lights in one of the two rooms listed.

So, progress?

Any agent with the Home Assistant MCP hooked up can do it fine.

fragmede an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Now playing "Turn Off the Lights" by Teddy Pendergrass on Apple Music.

usern20260720 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

$ Siri 'rename this thousand of photos in these folders describing their content and make sure to use the same name for duplicates regardless of their size'

I am waiting for this function to sort my folders

fragmede an hour ago | parent [-]

ChatGPT/Claude can do that today.

hodder 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The thing is, Apple will have never lost this opportunity. The distribution advantage of the user base is so deep they can basically always implement this at will.

Telemakhos 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Apfel filled that role: $ apfel "List the files in this folder."

https://apfel.franzai.com/

bubblegumcrisis 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What about: just not Siri at all. What about that. What about MrSunshine. I would rather have my own bot that I code. But no, vendor lock in.

reaperducer an hour ago | parent [-]

I want one named Bobby so I can shout

"Dammit, Bobby! Turn off the dang lights!"

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