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izzydata 3 hours ago

5 years old is crazy, but by the time they are 15-16 it becomes difficult to restrict them from things their peers all do. There needs to be a wider push from all parents or more of a consensus from society that these platforms are dangerous.

ryandrake 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You're not going to achieve coordinated, collective action by placing the burden of acting on the individual. It never works.

If collective action has to happen to solve some problem, it needs to either 1. be so strongly incentivized such that it's the only sensible thing for individuals to do, or 2. be mandated top-down and enforced.

You can't just shout "My solution relies on everyone independently doing X!" It never works.

Grombobulous 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, the platforms need to be regulated more for minors.

But also, prohibition has never been a very effective method with teens.

Just look at how college kids drink when they get to college. The sudden removal of parental restriction has a lot to do with that if you ask me.

I think this is better approached with broad education, and stronger regulations on the platforms themselves.

Part of the problem is that many parents aren’t educated themselves about what is good and bad for their kids. Examples include things like nutrition, screen time, even simple stuff like when to wean from bottles and keeping suffocation risks out of cribs.

intended an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Drinking is down for young adults and teens. My pet theory is that Covid broke the chain of party and drinking culture being passed down. (This is entirely speculative, and based on a single chart I saw.)

The relevance to your point being that removal of parental restrictions don't seem to be doing that anymore.

Education is definitely a good idea, but do note any plan that depends on education gives up the next 5-10 years before results are seen. Works great for societies and countries that think that far ahead.

America in particular has an extra challenge, since Big Tech is based here, and threats to revenue streams will be met with immense opposition.

Forgeties79 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Part of the problem is that many parents aren’t educated themselves about what is good and bad for their kids. Examples include things like nutrition, screen time, even simple stuff like when to wean from bottles and keeping suffocation risks out of cribs.

I would argue that more is being asked now of parents than in previous decades at least. You’re asking every parent to fight multi-billion dollar international addiction platforms on top of working, parenting, etc.

Grombobulous 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I totally agree with you, and that’s where platform regulation and privacy regulation has been failing parents.

Most people really can’t fathom the amount of data that tech platforms are slurping up, and they can’t fathom the sophistication of the data science that goes on involving their content feeds and data and metadata collection/targeting.