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loopies 3 hours ago

>Ill take good ole USA where at least I know I am free

At personal level that sounds like a better idea, but at group level it doesn't seem to be, that's what I think is OP's argument.

If a society puts more value on personal freedoms than it does on group well-being that becomes an anarchy. They didn't work out well historically speaking, proof is no such society made it to today.