| ▲ | BariumBlue 4 hours ago | |||||||||||||
The US governmental system does have it's issues (first past the post and it's effects being the most glaring), but isn't it the longest continuous democracy alive right now? > They are also less likely to start random wars EU lack of aggression, to defend themselves physically, economically, or otherwise, has been criticized constantly - slow and late to react to the Russian invasion, slow and late to react to new technologies like AI, electric cars. Thy're not immune to deadlock either - sometimes going months or even a year or two to form a valid governing coalition. The grass definitely looks greener though, especially if you've been in one pasture a long time. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | graemep 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||
> The US governmental system does have it's issues (first past the post and it's effects being the most glaring), but isn't it the longest continuous democracy alive right now? Depends how you define it and what you count. Do you take the union of the English and Scottish parliaments as breaking continuity or not? What do you define as democracy? If some of the population (women, slaves, etc.) are excluded from the electorate is it a true democracy? | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | BirAdam 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
The US government is only the longest continuous democracy only if one believes that the US is still a democracy. I've read some decent arguments that the US stopped being a democracy with the McKinley administration, and others that the US ceased to be a functional democracy during the Second World War. In both cases, the claim was that the USA became an imperial oligarchy. It is questionable whether any democracy truly exists at this point as I've seen no nation where the will of the people is typically manifested in the actions of the state. | ||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | watwut 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||
> isn't it the longest continuous democracy alive right now? It is the one the most at risk of ending right now. > Thy're not immune to deadlock either - sometimes going months or even a year or two to form a valid governing coalition. It is unrelated claim, but they do have better solution for that particular problem. The governmental shutdown seem to be about the most easy to abuse way to do it. I think they do have large problems too. And they may fall too, AfD won local elections after all. It is dubious whether Orban run Hungary was really democracy and electoral system was not reformed yet. But in this very moment, the one crumbling and dismantling itself the fastest is not UK nor in Europe. | ||||||||||||||