> Let's say we got rid of Trump, but then who is going to be the alternative in your opinion?

You seem to be using the "they're all as bad as eachother" argument. But previous US presidents haven't used their office for enrichment on this scale - and so it seems likely that there are alternative potential presidents who would behave with integrity and dignity.

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sajithdilshan 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> "they're all as bad as eachother"

But isn't that the case? They are all as bad and corrupt in their own merit. Coming back to the original question, do you have anyone concrete in mind that can be the alternative to Trump?

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andyjohnson0 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> But isn't that the case?

No, it isn't. There are people of good will and integrity in US politics. As there are is almost all countries.

"They're all as bad as eachother" is just a lazy excuse for cynicism and inaction.

	▲	gamessucknow 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> There are people of good will and integrity in US politics. As there are is almost all countries. Yep, and over the last year I’ve watched them get slaughtered in primaries.

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throw0101a 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> But isn't that the case?

No.

Has any other president fired the the FBI directory because he wouldn't swear personal loyalty to him (like Trump did Comey)? Did any other president try to do a (self) coup?

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capito...

Did any other president receive hundreds of millions of dollars in value as a gift?

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_VC-25B_Bridge

> Coming back to the original question, do you have anyone concrete in mind that can be the alternative to Trump?

Any Democratic candidate, including Harris and Clinton. With GOPers: Pence, Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, DeSantis, etc.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Republican_Party_presiden...

You may disagree with their policies (and even values), but would have anyone else tried to do an end-run around the Constitution? Pence went through with the 2020 election certification even when people were literally calling him for to be lynched.

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sajithdilshan 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Examples where former presidents firing people for lack of loyalty, here is a list of them (https://washingtonian.com/2017/07/03/brief-history-president...). Spoiler: Trump is not the only president that did that

The Boeing wag given to the US government. Not to Trump personally. It's stated explicitly in the wikipedia link you provided.

> Any Democratic candidate, including Harris and Clinton. With GOPers: Pence, Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, DeSantis, etc.

So you're fine with any other crook, but not Trump. Got it.

Further, wikipedia is not a credible source link in-case you didn't know. Anyone can edit the pages there and somethings are verified and sometime once could even make up facts and link to fake articles.

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jasomill a minute ago | parent | next [-]

The Boeing wag given to the US government. Not to Trump personally. It's stated explicitly in the wikipedia link you provided.

Also stated in a news report[1] linked by Wikipedia,

In what may be the most valuable gift ever extended to the United States from a foreign government, the Trump administration is preparing to accept a super luxury Boeing 747-8 jumbo jet from the royal family of Qatar -- a gift that is to be available for use by President Donald Trump as the new Air Force One until shortly before he leaves office, at which time ownership of the plane will be transferred to the Trump presidential library foundation, sources familiar with the proposed arrangement told ABC News.

[1] https://abcnews.com/Politics/trump-administration-poised-acc...

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trymas an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Further, wikipedia is not a credible source link in-case you didn't know.

@grok what is a credible source?

/s of course

	▲	sajithdilshan an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Had you ever been to a college and used wikipedia link as a source reference when writing a paper you would've known. But I guess for you it's just asking from some probabilistic token generator I guess.

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Hikikomori 24 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

>The Boeing wag given to the US government. Not to Trump personally. It's stated explicitly in the wikipedia link you provided.

>The aircraft is slated to be transferred to Trump's presidential library foundation shortly before the end of his second term, though critics argue that such a transfer may be unconstitutional.

So it will go to Trump, but only after getting the government to pay billions to upgrade it.

	▲	sajithdilshan 2 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		If it’s unconstitutional, then sue him and let the court decide.