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herbst 2 days ago

The city I grew up in had no roundabouts back then. Today it does have some, some were even made and removed again since. People there hate roundabouts.

The city I live nearby now has so many roundabouts that I can drive for over an hour without seeing a traffic light. It always had those, people are used to using them.

Guess what works better and barely has any traffic issues at all.

onionisafruit 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You only need one roundabout to be able to drive for hours without seeing a traffic light. It’s one of the main features of loops.

kazinator 31 minutes ago | parent [-]

Famous scene in Chevy Chase's European Vacation.

marcosdumay 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Guess what works better and barely has any traffic issues at all.

The one that where mass transit works better.

But yeah, a city still needs cars, and roundabouts are still unbeatable in low-traffic crossings. But they are not the most impacting change a city can make.

LargoLasskhyfv 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

As a bicyclist I hate them, at least the smaller ones. Because they slow me down, can't take them with 40 to 50 kph, need to slow down to 30. But that was the intent, yes?

However, crossings with traffic lights I can take at any speed I'm able to, when they are green for me, and I don't need to turn. Or if I can oversee them from afar, and they are empty, and I can give a shit about 'lights'.

herbst 2 days ago | parent [-]

Some roundabouts here have bike pass troughs on the side (obviously only works if there is no turn to that side) for speedy drivers like you.

Other than that it's obviously by design. There is no reason to speed at constant 50kph in a city. Nether for a car, motorbike or e-bike.

rightnutwingjob 7 hours ago | parent [-]

The think I don’t like about not being able to “speed” at 50kph(!) through a city is that, at least in Australia with it’s excessive compliment of bureaucratic Karens, is the 30 > 50 > 70 > 60 > 40 > 30 > SCHOOL ZONE > 80 > 40 > 50 > 30 nightmare.

Which does two things, raises state revenue and causes drivers to spend way to much time concentrating on how fast they are going rather than driving to suit the conditions and paying focusing to what’s going on in front of them.

And don’t get me started on the pot holes.