I feel like JPEG XL could be a good RAW format for mirrorless cameras... something with huge flexibility but with the perk of being easier to view casually on other devices. And then that in turn could make it a more useful web format? Camera vendors are of course notoriously proprietary/stubborn.

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mikae1 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Just demosaiced JPEG XL? That's not raw.

Lossless JPEG XL is in the DNG spec since three years (v1.7). So, you can convert your proprietary camera raw files to smaller ISO standard compliant JPEG XL compressed DNG raw files (mosaiced, not linearized).

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pkulak 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Raw isn’t an image though, it’s pre-image. And we have an open raw format already. DNF I think. With pretty decent adoption.

	▲	Gigachad 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		You are thinking of DNG which is more of a container format. It can use multiple image formats internally to record the actual image, one of them being JPEG-XL. iPhone raw images are actually a jpeg xl inside the DNG.
	▲	weinzierl 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		True. I would love to have lossless images (and video) out of my devices still. Not as a replacement for RAW but as a middle ground between RAW and lossy JPEG. Not for quality reasons primaily but because keeping the first stages of the processing pipeline and the archival branch lossless solves some headaches.

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adgjlsfhk1 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

it's even flexible enough to represent images pre de-bayering