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tsunamifury an hour ago

To argue that Facebook somehow magically tricks humans into voting against their will and overrides democracy is to argue that democracy itself inherently does not work.

It’s amazing that so many people don’t understand that.

It seems far harder to accept that people simply voted for trump because historical institutions had failed them so completely.

This would force the other party to recon with the failed parts of their platform. Which they still never have.

zorak8me 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Nobody is suggesting that Facebook magically tricked people into voting against their will.

qarl 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> To argue that Facebook somehow magically tricks humans into voting against their will and overrides democracy is to argue that democracy itself inherently does not work.

But we know that propaganda works. That doesn't sit well with your claims.

xboxnolifes 17 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It doesnt quite imply democracy does not work. It implies that propaganda works. And if propaganda works, then that would mean that having the bulk of the ability to propagandize concentrated in a few hands in a threat to democracy, as it means that few people effectively have a much more powerful vote. Which, if you'll allow me to shortcut the rest of the argument, just brings us to the fundamental threat to democracy is concentrated wealth and concentrated power.

smugglerFlynn 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is a difference between historical institutions failing people, and monkey A getting to a wrench quicker than monkey B (exactly what that email points to)

srean an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Both could be true.

JMiao 22 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

traditional media was already failing democracy well before social media. irrelevant news is the gateway to fake news. journalism was a prestige career that relied on access to advance, and access means you cannot always speak the truths required to inform voters.

tsunamifury 43 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Willing to concede that point. But parties should understand then what they are arguing for