There is nothing illegal about training on traces from frontier models.

However the frontier labs don’t have to serve customers who are farming the service for distillation purposes. That’s their choice and they’re free to make it if they detect distillation happening.

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darth_avocado 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I would argue they should have to. They scraped data off others, a lot of whom did not want that data to be used for AI training, and still had to share it with the frontier labs. It’s only fair they should have to hand it back.

The only way US maintains dominance over Chinese models is by having an ecosystem of models. Relying on a small set of frontier labs will only let you get ahead temporarily. I agree with Gary Tan on this one.

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hlynurd 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's fine, they just gotta tone down the victim rhetoric.

	▲	ronsor 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yes, I think this is the main issue. I don't care what policies the AI labs have or enforce, but they need to stop acting like ToS violations are an international crisis demanding intervention instead of a boring civil dispute at most.