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Matl 42 minutes ago

Beware of cities 'ditching Flock' only to immediately replace them with Axon, which is the same thing.

orangeberrytea 24 minutes ago | parent [-]

No it’s not.

Axon does not let you search for people in a database based on what they currently look like or are wearing like Flock does.

It’s not the same thing at all.

Axon is the company that made tasers for cops in the 90s and started making body cams in the 00s.

Flock is a YC startup that is going after mass surveillance of the public, allowing people with access to search and find people.

Unbelievable comparison to say they are “the same thing”

Mountain_Skies 16 minutes ago | parent [-]

Does Axon retain the data it is collecting? If so, even if they have no plans to use it like Flock does, those plans can change, sometimes even without the company's blessing. They sound like the lesser evil right now, but the core issue that goes well beyond Flock, Axon, and similar companies is that if data is collected and retained, someone will find leverage to use it for their own purposes.

AppleMeetOrange 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

You can’t really believe recording arrests for officer accountability is the same thing as mass surveillance of the public 24/7?

A) Recording an arrest from the perspective of the officer

B) Setting up a camera network in every town and city and providing an interface to search and find any random citizen

Same thing to you?