| ▲ | tomrod 31 minutes ago |
| How can this be stopped, from a technical perspective? Can I wrap the comms in a Faraday cage? Obviously it would be better to have this action be illegal. But with legal privacy protections eroding in the US and other countries, it seems prudent to have a better understanding of the systems involved in the immoral surveillance. |
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| ▲ | natch 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| Vote with your dollars. I know one brand that has the most leading edge tech and does not sell my data so I bought from them. However they do use my anonymized data to train models for a future FSD capability but only because I opted in to that. |
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| ▲ | willis936 21 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I've had good luck with pulling service manuals, finding the telematics antenna connectors, and unplugging them. It's popular to pull the telematics module fuse, but that typically disables internal microphones and GPS that are used by android auto and carplay. This severely degrades features spouses expect to just work. The antenna pulling is a much lighter touch. |
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| ▲ | classified 2 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > features spouses expect to just work Never underestimate the risks of spousal dissatisfaction. |
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| ▲ | schmeichel 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It is possible to remove the hardware itself that is responsible for this, but depending on the car it can very involved:
https://arkadiyt.com/2026/05/13/removing-the-modem-and-gps-f... |
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| ▲ | WarmWash 18 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What sucks is that at least with my car, if you pull their access, you also lose all your remote access as well, and the ability to receive updates. |
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| ▲ | derwiki 10 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Why do you need remote access to your car? What updates does your car need? | |
| ▲ | ryandrake 11 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Why does a car need "remote access" and to "receive updates?" I'd consider this a bonus side effect. | | |
| ▲ | ellisv 6 minutes ago | parent [-] | | People who live in cold or hot places like to prestart the climate control in their car. |
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| ▲ | forgetfreeman 28 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Simple: don't own a vehicle with this capability. |
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| ▲ | tomrod 27 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Much like owning a home without an HOA attached, it is becoming harder and harder to meet this requirement. It also seems to conflict with `right-to-repair` laws if the capability is legally required. | | |
| ▲ | calvinmorrison 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | How do you think right-to-repair intersects with cars? An obvious thing may be to say the software must be published or the spec released, but we've had computers in cars since the 80s. It seems like a tall task but people can and do reverse engineer entire ECU systems (See Trionic Tuning) Another seemingly very obvious one - requiring manufacturers to publish specifications regarding ALL OBD interface options. Of course this immediately runs into trouble. Saab for example gated features of the security system to prevent key reprogramming, swapping of certain components without a dial out to the internet using specific saab software that runs on a laptop and interfaces. | |
| ▲ | cucumber3732842 7 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | >Much like owning a home without an HOA attached, it is becoming harder and harder to meet this requirement. The near universal proliferation of owner's associations and management groups and whatnot for developments larger than ~1ac (the EPA threshold, some states/towns have lower) is something you can lay at the feet of the Clean Water Act and it's implementation and precedents over the following decades. The exact area of the buildings, the driveways, the community park and gazebo, etc, etc, are necessary features of the site plan that makes the math that is required to meet stormwater/environmental requirements. And and some legal entity has to be responsible for that in perpetuity. Enter the HOA. This is also why HOAs often won't allow you to expand your driveway or add a non-permeable patio, it could (prob not, but still) ruin the environmental calculations they're responsible for enforcing as a condition. I'm not nearly as familiar with car regulatory stuff but I would bet a lot of money that they're using OTA telematics to check some sort of compliance box... |
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