| ▲ | grumpopotamus 2 hours ago | |||||||||||||
I think "something that happened 20M years ago" is still wrong. One of the consequences of special relativity is there is no such thing as "simultaneous" events very far apart. In other words, if we went back 20M years on Earth we could not meaningfully say the black hole event is happening "right now". | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | tomrod an hour ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||
It's a semantic saying that misses what people typically mean when we speak about simultaneous events. Someone sends an email or speaks on a voice call on the other side of world and a receiver still gets that note at the speed of light, there is slight latency. It's still completely reasonable to measure that latency as we can effectuate improvements to our machines and networks when it increases. The same as if someone wrote a letter in the 1860s and the horses were sick, causing a delay. Simply because information was received by us, the common understanding is that the notification was sent previously, because that is how cause and effect work. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | anonzzzies 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
Yes, but we can say it happened in our past. But agreed, we cannot go back 20m years and say it’s simultaneous with the events here. If GP meant that, then agreed. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | ViktorRay an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||
Wait then what about events that happen on Pluto? Pluto is around five light hours away from us. If an astronaut goes to Pluto and films herself doing activity A and then broadcasts that back to Earth, it would take around five hours for the broadcast to reach us. So you’re saying that it is not correct to say her recorded activity happened five hours ago? | ||||||||||||||
| ||||||||||||||