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Towaway69 8 hours ago

Who got hacked? Hugging faces

Who now owns HF? Nvidia

Who supplies hardware to OpenAI? Nvidia

Who is now not pressing charges? …

This incident is a long way under the carpet.

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dwaltrip 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Can’t a prosecutor charge them regardless?

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tesnorindian 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In Indian legal syatem a case can be filed suo moto by the judges or agencies. You don't require the affected party to sue. Not sure how it works in the US.

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Towaway69 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

NAL but I assume that if both sides aren’t interested in a prosecution, it’s an uphill battle for a prosecutor.

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pants2 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Typically yes but given that OpenAI has published enormous official blog posts breaking down their crime, I would think the prosecutor's job is pretty easy.

	▲	Towaway69 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It’s then up to a judge to decide whether thats evidence and whether it’s incriminating. I assume OAI published those details after checking with their legal department. So there’s a good chance that there isn’t a chance for prosecution. Plus they probably published that after knowing that the nvidia/HF deal was happening. So instead this “security incident” should have been spun as OAI is honestly admitting its faults and AI is dangerous and therefore open weight models (hosted ironically by HF) should be banned. That spin didn’t really happen …

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lotyrin 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Legally, Practically or Politically?

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bluegatty 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's not 'under the carpet'.

HF doesn't want to lay charges against OpenAI and it's totally reasonable.

Now - they absolutely should have that right, and I think they do.

The issues are

1) OAI it seems was not trying to cause them harm, there wasn't a ton of harm, they are both groups trying to advance AI. One experimenter's lab screwed up next to the other. It's not evil, just irresponsible.

2) HF was fine with the publicity. HF got at least $50M in free attention out of that. It put them on the front pages of news around the world. It put them at the 'centre of the AI drama' and cemented their role among the 'Tech Elite Brands'.

And probably some other things.

This is one Desperate Housewife or Jersey Shore character 'spilling a drink' on the other. It's probably not intentional, and the ensuing drama is good for both of them.

	▲	Towaway69 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I think what you say is right but it’s also a further example of the zero responsibility of silicon valley tech. For the last 20 odd years this excuse-o-rama that covers anything from data leaks to broken software to dystopian social media has been the wind in the sails of big tech. “It’s software therefore we’re not responsible” attitude is wearing thin on many innocent bystanders and I think thats also a justified stance. And it’s not like they didn’t know this could happen, Nick Bostrom talked about exactly these containment failures in his “Superintelligence” book of 2014. So to throw up their hands and say “oh we can’t have known of the dangers” is also sadly untrue.

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cyh555 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

cool, now about Rubygems...